Marriage Intensives

Kathy,

I read your post wrong the first time, and like an idiot I nearly spoke before listening :)...  I miss-read a few things that confused me, but now I see that your post is excellent.  People that find themselves in these messes are very lost and need to stop the denial and like you said "MAN UP" or "WOMAN UP":)....  My wife is one that has stayed in denial and has surrounded herself with people that she has grown to become just like (her mother).  Her Mothers programming has taught her to neglect and avoid responsibility, heck lie if you have to if it means avoiding conflict, and in the meantime don't let anyone know the real you, stay in denial.  Her mother is an addict so all these she is pro at all these things.  Anyway I just liked what you had to say and sure wish my wife would even consider going to an even like this.