Rick Reynolds, LCSW
by Rick Reynolds, LCSW
Founder & President, Affair Recovery

Why Couples Fail After an Affair | Part 4 - Not Grieving the Loss

Why Couples Fail After an Affair: A Four Part Series

Part 1: Not Knowing What Happened
Part 2: Not Getting It
Part 3: Denying Your Reality
Part 4: Not Grieving the Loss

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I hate grief work, as anyone in our office will attest. I think it comes from a one-year season in my life where I lost my mother, grandmother, father-in-law, uncle, and the 10-year-old son of our dear friends. I was devastated by the losses, but each time I tried to move on it felt like another death knocked me down causing a sense of utter helplessness. My response to these events was pure rage. The circumstances were beyond my ability to comprehend. I couldn't fix it. I couldn't control it. I couldn't even understand it. Sad to say, I didn't know much about grief in those days; I wish I had. The only way I knew to respond was with anger and rage, which I selfishly spewed out on everyone around me.

The pain after an affair can be as crushing as losing a loved one if not more so. It's a pain like nothing else we experience.

With the deaths of my loved ones, I experienced some kind of finality. However, in the case of betrayal, having to live with the ongoing consequences and corresponding fear of a repeated betrayal perpetuates the trauma.

Typical Responses to Pain After Infidelity

Our current culture has a problem with the type of loss associated with infidelity. We're expected to be able to overcome any obstacle by pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps. We're taught from an early age that our "can-do" attitude will give us the ability to overcome all of life's obstacles.

We often enter into "modes" in order to deal with our pain, and the three most common I see are:

  1. Fix-It

    At this point in our lives, we're well-trained in the Fix-It mode and frequently utilize this approach to handle our infidelity crisis. We soon discover that much of the wreckage created by infidelity can't simply be fixed.
  2. Control-It

    At other times, we enter into the Control-It mode, but many aspects of infidelity are flat-out unmanageable, and the pain keeps going on. It's impossible to control our spouse, and controlling the flow of information causes more damage in the long run than getting everything out.
  3. Understand-It

    We might even try the Understand-It mode, falsely believing that our capability to comprehend what happened will stop the pain. In the case of infidelity, there are rarely enough answers, and even when answers come, they fail to lessen the pain. It's important to point out here that there is tremendous benefit from seeking to understand in regard to building empathy, learning the full story of what happened, and learning how to heal after infidelity. However, purely cerebral understanding cannot replace the role that grief plays in specifically addressing and transforming pain.

How Grief Can Transform Our Pain

As Americans, we have little training in the healthy practice of Grieve-It mode. It's applicable to situations that are too messy to fix, too big to control, and too unjust to understand.

Grief is the only way to deal with loss and pain after infidelity.

Grieving is the soul's primary path for transforming pain and trauma into peace and, ultimately, acceptance. For many of us, though, grieving is a foreign path that we might even run from and fight to avoid. Rather than allowing our pain to be transformed, we'll attempt to manage it or even numb it. The problem is, we cannot selectively numb only certain areas of life. So, we end up becoming completely numb, and that all-consuming numbness results in more collateral damage.

"Pain that is not transformed will be transmitted."

- Richard Rohr

I couldn't agree more with Rohr's quote. To move beyond a betrayal, it is imperative to learn the Grieve-It mode. I can imagine the resistance some of you are feeling right now. You might be thinking:

  • How can anything good come out of this?
  • I didn't cause this. Why should I have to walk through the pain?
  • This is their issue. Why should I have to do the work?

I don't always know the answers to these questions. But I do know that some situations are so big it's impossible to find all the answers, and at times we have to go on living without knowing. If there are no good answers, what are you going to do with the pain that feels like death in your soul? How do you handle running into something so horrible that it brings you to the end of yourself?

In these situations, we may be powerless, but we're not helpless.
We still get to choose how to respond.

This is so important to us that two of Affair Recovery's "We Believe" statements are

1) Severe crisis can lead to radical transformation, and

2) Failure teaches what success cannot.

I can honestly say that my year of death was one of the most painful times in my life, but it was also one of the most transformative. I'm certainly not trying to justify the evil that has occurred in anyone's life or excuse anyone's addiction. I can say, though, that every major lesson I've learned after the age of thirty hasn't been the result of success but, rather, has been the result of failure. If we allow ourselves the grace to process it fully, there is a way for our pain to be used as a catalyst for healing, growth, and transformation.

This may surprise you: a major determining factor between those who go forward with new life and those who remain stuck after an affair is their willingness to grieve the loss.

One of the lectures given at EMS Weekend is titled "Barriers to Recovery," and one of the six barriers we discuss is "A Failure to Grieve". Below is a portion of that lecture:

Grieving Done Well

Those who go into Grieve-It mode may spend months sorting through their grief with tears, pain, and true sorrow but, at the end of their journey, they feel refreshed and renewed. I remember one of our mentors explaining how each night after she got the kids to bed, she'd go to the bathroom and cry out to God while weeping. While that may sound strange to some, at the end of her season of mourning she was renewed. She worked through the grief and was able to emerge without that tangible sadness, that weight in her soul, dragging down even the best days. You can read her compelling story here.

Since I began my work as a therapist in 1981, I have never known of a single person who has thoroughly grieved and had any regrets or felt a need to blame anyone. They are free and at peace. When people fail to move forward after the affair, it's often due to the inability to grieve the loss. Instead of healing from the pain, they try to control and manage the pain which only results in further damage and isolation.

Untransformed pain manifests itself in some unexpected but harmful ways. Frequently, it's seen as bitterness and resentment. Eventually, untransformed pain makes us toxic to everyone around us, and our pain is transmitted through mistrust, rejection, and isolation. We continually play the victim and claim self-protection as the defense for making everyone else wrong so we can be right.

Samuel shared some poignant thoughts in one of his video blogs, where he cautions survivors to not 'anger their way through recovery'.

Whichever process you choose to work through the pain of infidelity, please do not skip grieving. It's hard and it hurts, but truly grieving the losses created by infidelity is the only way to overcome the pain and discover peace. For more help on how to grieve while being supported by a tight-knit group consider the Harboring Hope course for betrayed spouses.

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My question is, I'm now going on my third year of being betrayed by the man of love and always will. I find myself grieving yet. Does this mean I have not processed my grief property, or is it normal to have on going grief?


I am in my seventh year since being betrayed. Although I feel like I have forgiven my husband, and I consider our marriage stronger than it's ever been, I still wish the affair had never happened. When I first discovered the affair, I went to a dear friend who was about 20 years out from her betrayal who told me not to think it was ever going away, because it never goes away. I thought that was a real downer, but I get it now. The memory never goes away. The pain gets to be less and less, but the knowledge remains, just like when someone you love dies. I think the key is to grieve the loss of our old marriage and then allow ourselves to enjoy and appreciate our new marriage.

Recovery/Moving Forward

My husband of 22 years divorced me and married his affair partner before the ink was even dry on the divorce decree. I'm having a very difficult time dealing with this. Is there anything available to help move on from this?

Harboring Hope

I highly recommend the Harboring Hope "course". It's actually more than a course. It's a support group designed for the hurt spouse to achieve recovery. Regardless if which direction the marriage goes, the materials are designed for YOU in my group each of us were in different circumstances, but we sure bonded. Check it out. It's a gift you give yourself.

On Grieving

Thank you for this. It has confirmed what I have been going through. I am in the process of dealing with seven years of deception and the six affairs my wife had in various circles of our lives. There have been months where I would spend three to six hours a day weeping, and though we are nowhere out of the woods yet, and still am uncertain about what to do, allowing myself to grieve the loss, for a true loss it is (like a death) has given me personal, inner strength to keep going, and to even entertain the idea that hope might exist. As odd as it sounds, my best grieving would be when I would address my inner self and sometimes even utter words telling myself it was okay for me to let go, okay to cry over my loss. Unlike avoidance, which hardens the surface; grieving strengthens the inside. Seven months into it, I'm down to about an hour a day, and so it will go on until I am past it.

Spot On

Thank you for this article. It has validated everything that my husband, the Betrayed, has been feeling and going through since he found out about my infidelity over 3 years ago. The only solution he feels that will help him is to have me move out. It's not what I want or have been praying for but I am 100 percent committed to his overall healing and if he feels that this is best for him, then I will do what he asks.


My husband of 29 years dumped me last year for a woman nearly 20 years younger than him. He will be 70 next year and I think he has a hard time facing old age. Perhaps this is his way of hanging on to youth. I am devastated and having a hard time dealing with all the emotional as well as practical aspects of this betrayal. I am 64 and not in a position to easily get a job. How do you pull yourself together and learn to live alone after being emotionally dependent on someone for 30 years? I have read all the blogs and articles about grieving and keeping busy and exercising (I am doing all those things) but I keep getting knocked back into despair. How long does it take ?


I am in a very similar position. After being married for nearly 30 yrs, and being a stay at home mom for the last 21 years, I am terrified. I also have health issues and don't even know if I could physically handle a job, IF I could find one after being out of the work force for so long. The only thing I feel qualified to do is answer a phone. I feel like I haven't been denying the grieving process, but maybe I'm still missing something. We are divorcing, his choice not mine. I don't know how to get past the loneliness of living alone. It's impossible to explain how I feel. I cry nearly everyday even though he moved out 18 months ago. I feel "emotionally homeless" and terrified about financial problems that I will have once the divorce is final.

How long

It has been 18 months since Dday. I have grieved since day 1. I am still in the grief mode. How long does the grieving go on? There are days I am all "cried out" but still feel like I have a bag of stones in my heart. Other days I cry almost all day. This seems too long to be stuck in this stage. Shouldn't I be able to get past this by now? I am so tired.......I feel so empty, except for the all-consuming , ever-present sadness..........

How Long?

Someone above mentioned giving up on the idea of being completely healed, of forgetting. I don't think there was a big day that I decided to heal, but a gradual struggle to move beyond my painful memories. Those memories sting terribly, so I choose not to dwell on them as much for myself (& friends & family).

It's been over a year for me and it was a very rough day emotionally. Optimistically tomorrow is another day. Pessimistically tomorrow is another day of pain. Realistically tomorrow is another day of struggles and accomplishments. Overcoming these struggles shapes me as an individual and living through such a traumatic event honestly makes me stronger for future struggles. (It sounds optimistic but the pain puts life into a new perspective when you allow it.)

Seeking Relief

It has been 5 years since my husband had an affair with a woman I considered a good friend. All the while they were being unfaithful, they both were tell me how much they loved me. I would love to be over this pain. There were other factors regarding this woman I feel should have stopped my husband dead in his tracks when it came to her and it didn't. On top of being betrayal, I feel he did care because it could have caused me a death sentence. My husband & I are still together but I can't move forward.

Why should an adulterer be forgiven?

Rick, I have read every article since I signed up shortly after I found out my husband of now 16 years became an adulterer nearly 16 months ago. I have read numerous books, thousands of articles and still can't wrap my head around the act of forgiveness being for the betrayed spouse and not the adulterer. I have read the God demands forgiveness, but it needs to be genuine. I have accepted what has transpired, I have no choice, what is done is done. I will never understand it, it will never be justified in my mind and therefore why would I forgive an act (or multiple acts in his case) that should have never occurs? Admitted he should have never broken his vows or commitments. He deliberately signed up on a website to seek an extra-marital affair, he set out to destroy our marriage deliberately, it was her s choice, regardless of his poor communication skills, low self-esteem, etc. He had a head on his shoulder and knew right from wrong and still choose to do wrong, but yet he should be forgiven by the spouse that stood by his side for the four years of unemployment, issues with infertility and hormone imbalances. I still can't even decide if I like this man anymore. All the "I love you" and "I'm so sorry I messed up" don't excuse the behavior of adultery. His therapy, my therapy and even our couples therapy haven't answered the question, "why forgive a deliberate act?", other than becaise the bible tell us to do so.

Re: why should we forgive?

I’m with you on this one. I forgave my cheating spouse when I discovered the affair three years ago. Things seemed ok at times, happy at times but there are times when he hurt me real bad through his selfishness and insensitivity. I used to be emotionally dependent on him but I realised these 3 years I have become very independent, financially and emotiknally. I no longer connect with him, don’t spend his money (not even a single penny but he asked me for money at times), and enjoys doing activities on my own. However, I try to include and engage him all the time but most times get hurt in return by his actions and words which stems from the fact that he still thinks the world revolves around him.

Why should I forgive and continue to be with such a guy when I can be happier alone?

Why Forgive

The command to forgive is for you! Forgiveness does not excuse the behavior, justify the behavior, or say the behavior is acceptable. It is wrong. It is not justifiable. It is inexcusable. What forgiveness says is.. “God, I have been hurt by this. What has happened is wrong according to Your word. But today I am choosing to forgive this and put the judgement for it in Your hands. Instead of figuring out what retribution needs to take place, what punishment needs to take place... I am trusting in Your righteous and fair judgement to properly handle this situation. I’m releasing my rights to get revenge or get even and trusting that You not only know what happened but You know the deep recesses of the heart and WHY it happened. I trust that You are a good God and good at being God.” That’s what forgiveness really is.

not approved

I disagree with the comment that forgiveness is for the hurt person. That might be a secular view, but I don't read that in the bible. You can always forgive, that is your choice. But I believe if the offender isn't repentant, then I do not owe them forgiveness. The prayer I read above has more to do with releasing and leaving the matter at God's feet, like Jesus modeled for us with the mockers at the cross. That type of forgiveness does not reconcile. Jesus came to forgive to restore and reconcile the relationship. Jesus does not forgive to make Himself feel better. It is all about restoring the relationship, at least somewhat. We can't forgive as completely as He can but when you forgive someone in the biblical sense it means that you are willing to have / continue / rebuild some type of relationship with your offender. This is why repentance is critical.

If your offender is repentant, then you are commanded to forgive them. 7 x 7 times if you must. If they are repentant, then you forgive (in that order). That is obedience to Christ.

If they are not repentant, you do not owe them forgiveness.

Your forgiveness is special, valuable, and important. Don't just throw it away because you want to feel better. The bible has other principles for releasing your hurt and moving on in the face of an unrepentant offender.

One more comment; the bible does not put a time limit on forgiveness. Make sure you have what you need to know and you're ready.

Why forgive

I couldn't grasp the forgiveness part either, No one could explain what forgiveness is let alone how to forgive,
Then I had an insight on it,
To separate the word into parts
I Am FOR ......... Giving myself peace of mind on that subject/Person
This way worked for me well
That's how I now see For ....Give

My feelings exactly. How are

My feelings exactly. How are you now? Where you able to get pass it? Going through the exact same situation.


Forgiveness is a choice you make to let go of punishing the offending party and move forward, rather than living in the pain of the past. It does not justify their wrong (or else there would be no reason to forgive). It is more for your own healing than it is for the offender. Not forgiving turns the offense into a toxic life long sentence of torture for yourself.

multiple affairs

I'm not sure if I'm more devastated by my wife's multiple affairs or her unwillingness to discuss them, take responsibility for them, and acknowledge their impact on me and on our relationship. Today we agreed that a seperation is probably a good idea. However, because the most recent of four affairs in the last 6 years became known to me just three weeks ago....I'm in no place to make any kind of rational decision and I'm not certain how to respond to her. Amazingly, she sees a seperation as something we can and should do as friends. I am still numb from the discovery of her latest affair (an online relationship) and feel stupid, depressed and in shock. Any suggestions around next steps?

Grieving the loss

It has been a little over 3 years since D-day. I am still in pain everyday and can not more forward with accepting all the loss this has caused me. While he wants to work on the marriage to this day he still has not answered all my questions, has been defensive and I have caught him in lies to my face while he thinks he is protecting me it does more harm. I understand grieving mode what I do not get is how anyone gets through the grieving mode when there is continuous loss. D-day is not about grieving just one issue in your marriage but multiple losses surrounding your intimate relationship, beliefs, dreams, the safety and security in your relationship you will never have again. Then when life throws at you more loss from deaths, or other tragic events it becomes cloudy what you are grieving. It is like that is all that there is in your world the loss becomes overwhelming. When his actions have not only created D-day and his actions create more life threatening events resentment is so easy to grow. I feel as if grieving is now the way of life for me as it will take years to get through all of the destruction that has been created. It would be one thing if I had done all this to myself instead of being the trusting wife that allowed her husband to carry on believing every word he ever said. Trust is the furthest thing that will ever be restored and to live life in the grieving mode is not a life at all. How much more can one person take, along with having your unfaithful partner minimize the affair and the breakage of all that you hold dear.

Don't know if I am over grieving the loss

So I am listening to Rick's video and I am still not 100 percent sure if I have grieved properly or enough. It has nearly been one year since the disclosure of my wife's 2-year emotional affair with the youth pastor in our church and, while we have been diligently going to marriage counseling almost weekly for the past 6 months and she has been going to individual counseling, I still feel so much anguish and hurt inside every day. A pain that just won't go away, like a misty fog.

It doesn't help that my wife continues to keep her distance is is still so very disconnected from me. We sleep in the same bed, she has allowed herself to be physically intimate, but there is still very little emotional or spiritual connection. She rather spend time alone than together, she doesn't allow me to hold her hand, to cuddle with her on the couch or in bed, to kiss her, to hug her. I know these are issues of hers with me (she found me to be way to "clingy" and "needy" and very insecure and anxious -- which I have been working to not be these things in my personal walk with God over the past 2 years), but it is hard because she still has her walls up with me.

I pray daily and try to just press into God and give my pain to Him to help transform me into a better man of God so I can become a better husband of God. It is so very tough and my wife just tells me to be patient and not put any timelines in place so she can just naturally fall in love with me again. She does not respect me, she does not cherish me and she is not "in love" with me at this point. All she says is she is still here and she is trying to be obedient to God, lifting it up to Him every day.

My patience feels very thin, my emotions still run high, I do my very best to control my emotional triggers as to avoid arguments (which still erupt about every 2 weeks), so I wonder all the time when the shoe is going to drop and she will just say enough is enough and leave. It makes for a very anxious life even as I do my best to turn my fears and anxiety over to Him knowing that perfect love casts out fear.

My key verse is Joshua 1:9 as I try to be strong and courageous while not being afraid or discouraged knowing that God is with me. And if my wife does wind up leaving, I have to believe in my heart that God will be all that I need and He will lead me to a woman that is faithful and will be loving, respectful and cherish the love that I have to give in return. It is so hard because the wife I have now is the one I truly love and want to spend the rest of my life with, but she holds all the cards and all the power and doles out only what she is willing to give.

All the while, I am still grieving what I thought was a better marriage than most had. I treated her like a queen. I treated her better than she deserved. The seeds that I sewed were of love and respect and what I reaped was a bitter, resentful harvest of hate and disconnect. It makes it very hard to trust the Lord when you plant one way and receive another. When you give generously and you reap a venomous snake or scorpion in return. It makes a person very gunshy going forward in life and hard to trust the goodness of the Lord.


She may be feeling shame, which might make her feel unworthy of you affection amd willingness to forgive and recover. Has she had any support or therapy in this beyond what religious texts say?

I too have been betrayed.

I too have been betrayed. However, I am angry- not needy! I feel a disconnect from my husband due to his stupid and weak choices that put everything at risk. You are right, your wife has all the power. I think you need to tap into righteous anger and take back the power. Maybe your wife disrespects you and takes you for granted because she can. Maybe you feel like she is the only one for you so you are desperate to hold on to her. She senses you are desperate and doesn't respect that. She interprets it as weakness. I tell my husband " I don't need you, I'll be just fine without you! I'm not even sure I want you." Hurtful, I know. but true at this point in our journey (6 months post D Day). I cannot presume to speak for your relationship, I just hope you respect yourself enough not to put up with being taken for granted. Samuel has a good video on Anger and the betrayed spouse. Not sure of the exact title. Sometimes people need to get angry and stop being a door mat. I am probably too angry, but it is early,


Hello what was the outcome?

I found out on December 4th

I found out on December 4th that my beloved husband had been engaging in sexting for about 1 month prior. He had a history of being unfaithful in his previous relationships, but in the 6 years he had been not only faithful, but told me that it was our relationship that had finally made him understand why being faithful is not only important, but made him feel much better as a person. The last 9 months of our lives have been totally topsy-turbulent and my husband doesn't deal well with stress. I was worried that from the stress he might reach out to another woman because I was under so much pressure dealing with a sick mother, trying to unload her huge home filled to the rafters with stuff. I have problem with getting too goal oriented and told I knew he was hurting because he had been pushed to the back burner. I told him repeatedly that he really needed to jump my case, but he said that would just be piling on and wouldn't be fair to me. Then I found out about the sexting. I knew why it was happening but was still devastated. I shouted at him the next evening and then we began to have open discussions via email. He was journaling in a notebook nightly and was going to take down his Facebook, had made on appointment with a psychologist for the 13th which he was very much looking forward to. We decided it would be best if he moved to s hotel for 2 weeks to get a real feel for what not being with me, the family and the cats would be. He had reservations for December 11th. I have to tell you, this man was truly remorseful and truly wanted to resolve whatever issues he had in his life that had made him a serial cheater in his past and learn how to deal with any triggers that may cause him to ever cheat on me and the family. His journaling was acceptance of responsibility and a sincere hope that he could be "fixed " once and for all. They were truly words of hope. I knew with all of my heart we were going to get through this and be even better on the other side because we have been soulmates since the day we met. We had just started to take our relationship for granted and we knew we could and wanted to restore our fairy tale romance. Unfortunately, I found him dead on the morning of December 11th. So, I have been dealing not only with the grief of infidelity, but had to put to rest my best friend, lover and husband. If you have any ideas on how to cope with this, I sure would appreciate it. Thank you.

Your losses

I'm heartbroken for you! I hope that you have been able to find some sort of peace in the last few month.


I am grieving after being cheated on emotionally with a girl younger and as slim as Iused to be before our child. He apparently does not remember this.
Anyway, he is going to visit her country now and insists it is not for her but just to go on holiday. I know he is lying. He says he wants to work things oit aftet some time but he had not really taken responsibility.
He does not get what he had done nor does he want to. I don't even get why part of him wants to hold on to me. It's baffling. And annoys me at the same time.

I have left the home we lived together but i am yet to sign our relationship off. I think he wants to pursue her and come back if they don't work out.

I find that grief goes hand in hand with hope. I am grieving but I havr hope of the time it will have gone away. For me, the whaling I do once a day is me letting my soul heal. I mention all the things i feel and fear to God.
And I know he has my back. I know doors close for new ones to open. Whatever new ones those will be.

My partner says he will take the affair analyzer when he is ready. Part of me is hopeful but part of me realises this is probably all up to the AP even though he claims he doesn't want to be with her as much as I think he does.

My resolution is to take care of me and let him be. I will also be signing the papers as he has shown me who he is. I need to stop waiting for something different.

Recovering from an Affair

Great article!

But I HAVE mourned.

It has almost been a year since my husband went on two dates with another woman that he met on a dating app. He was writing other women too but this one wanted to meet. I have cried. I have mourned yet my pain continues. I have cried countless times alone and in front of him. Yet its still there in the back of my mind. Its still there not allowing me to be completely happy with my husband in any situation. I cant fully enjoy moments together though I try very hard. I lost a part of my love for him and it has not returned. I guess because the man I fell in love with was not someone who would do such a deceitful thing. After that day I will always know he is capable dishonesty and manipulation. Even if he never did it again he still did it. Whereas I would never no matter how I felt, I would never cheat on someone. No amount of crying makes me feel better. No amount of crying helps me transform my pain into anything other that a reminder of the deception. I cant unsee him as the person who lied like that. I know hes sorry. I know he he did it as an ego boost and did not intend to end his relationship with me. I just cant get through to the other side. I hate not enjoying my life because of his decisions. I am mad at him for doing this to me. I am mad that it even had to happen and I absolutely do not care this is what had to happen for him to know how much he loves me. Its not fair no matter what. I see him smiling as he gleefully told me not to wait up he would be drinking with his buddy. I see him getting ready to leave. I see him eager to destroy me and I had no clue what was going on. I see him for who he really was that day in that moment. That day I see my reality shattered. All my happiness before that... Gone. The happiness he gave me went somewhere and it didnt come back. I am sick of thinking about it. Sick of being sad. Sick of working towards peace over it. Im sick of choosing the man at the table gleefully telling me not to wait up. It sickens me. I doubt if I even know what love is. I cant talk to him about it anymore. He shows guilt. But its not enough. Its not enough because it can never be undone. I will never see him as my hero again. He may never make me feel like I am the one for him. I want a good man. I want a man who is honest... Who does the right thing when no one is looking. I want someone amazing who also somehow thinks I am amazing and worth loyalty. He lost that when he did what he did. Hes just a perverted selfish man. Im always going to be me, I was me then, me now. He made the choice so effortlessly. So happily. It brought him joy and fulfillment to lie to me. It was fun. Thrilling. I ruined his night out. The woman he once adored so much. Was so disposable...

Painful mourning

I too am going through almost the exact feelings. Three weeks ago I found that my husband of 25 years, has been carrying out multiple online affairs for the past 3 years. He feels I should be able to forgive and move on since it was not physical. I am so distraught, do I leave or try to live with this painful marriage the rest of y life. How are things for you now, I need to know if you have gotten better, what I should expect.

Wow, my feelings exactly.

Wow, my feelings exactly. How can I love this man and continue with him? The lies and humiliations just kept piling and piling up with no regard for me or the kids. The whole company knew he was having an affair and I had my suspicions but no proof. He was happy letting me live in the misery of not knowing but suspecting. Only when I got my proof did he admit to it and block her phone, after denying it twice. I told him I'm not a f$%#ing idiot! I know you F'ed her. There is a picture of her on her bed with the covers pulled open. There are endearments exchanged! His reply? "I guess I just got tired of jacking off!!" He finally spun the tale that she was extremely pushy and manipulative (I know this to be true, I've seen her in action) and she talked him into it. It only happened once and then she wanted more but he said no. Except that wasn't the truth. A month later, when I confront him with his bullshit story again and tell him I don't buy it, he confesses that it went on for 6 months. So I lost all respect, trust and love for him at this moment in time and for the foreseeable future. Not sure it is worth it. Separation might be wiser. However, I am not throwing away a 23 yr marriage on a whim, although I feel that is exactly what he has already done. I owe it to our kids to try, so EMS weekend it is.


My thoughts exactly. How well put.

You took the words out of my

You took the words out of my mouth. If you are still reading this thread, what did you end up deciding to do?

Where are you now?

Your story rings so familiar and your feelings are exactly mine. Three years ago you wrote this, where are you in your journey now? I feel your pain and feel your anger and feel your desire to be whole for yourself.

But I HAVE mourned

I could not have said it better. I feel exactly as you do. My knowledge of my husband’s affair came just 1 month ago, and I still cry almost every day. We have known each other for 35 years and been married for 23. I feel like I have dehydrated myself from crying. I feel just as you put it, “disposable “. Like I’m special to no one. I’m not glamorous, powerful, important in any real sense, but I thought I was special to my spouse, and that gave me comfort, strength. That apparently is not true. I feel like he did this either deliberately to hurt and destroy me or maybe worse…because he thought nothing of me. That I didn’t matter at all. That’s maybe a more frightening thought. To not be considered, respected, loved enough for someone to not act badly. Not sure how to process moving forward. Don’t see a future really with or without him. Like I’m stuck. He tells me he loves me but my definition of love would never allow me to hurt another in this way. Feel like I’ve been living a lie. Recently started counseling to heal myself and our marriage if that’s possible. Maybe the tears are for mourning the life and marriage I once had and I’ll emerge victorious and stronger. Hard to believe that right now though.

Thank you.

This couldn't have come at a better time. I keep trying to hold on to a relationship that I know in my heart is over. I (the unfaithful) want to make tntings right and make things better, but the damage I left in the wake of my affairs is too great that my spouse needs to just move on. So, I need to just accept that it is what it is, no matter how badly I want to go back and change what I've done and how I handled the aftermath of my infidelities, i can't. I need to begin the grieving process because this impending separation/divorce is weighing heavy on my heart right now. Thank you Rick!

Good move

That is so brave of you. I wish my husband would recognize what you did so we could move forward, but instead he continues to give me false hope that I cling to stupidly. Good luck to you and your spouse.

your confession

OMG I feel so sad for you and your wife Rick. Thank you for sharing your pain , as the one who cheated. I wish my ex would do that. It has been 24 years since his affairs and the end of our marriage as a result. I remain single to this day, my trust completely destroyed. I begged him to end it but he persisted. It destroyed so much of my life, my health....but if he had just stopped it when I asked, I would have remained. Sadly, a year after his girlfriend moved into what used to be our home, she left him. Then he came to me asking for me to come back to him. But, he showed no real remorse, never even apologized. He even told me to hurry up and make up my mind because he had another waiting in the wings! Despite my deep love, I could not return to him. It tore me up. I am on this site today reading through all these grieving spouses as I emailed my ex this week asking for the apology i never got. He wrote back and gave a half assed "I am sorry" after telling me all about the pain from his car accident 2 years ago and the struggles he has with his new wifes relatives. I wrote him back and told him his apology meant so little after focusing the letter on his pain instead of acknowledging mine!!!!!! I hope that you can save your marriage! Admitting your mistake and then being patient with your wife as she goes through so many crazy emotions. Be patient dont give up on her. Drop your lover, tell her what was it inside of you (not her) that made you stray. Take responsibility , all of it. Stay by her side. In time she will see how good you are. Please dont move on. Just ride it out with her. Allow her to yell if she wants. Dont make her feel bad for her feelings. Be strong and let her beat you if she wants. Do everything to make it up to her. I wish my ex was a brave man like that. Oh god, you know i miss him terribly. Miss our marriage. It is the greatest tragedy. Please hold steady and show your wife you are remorseful. Good luck and I hope the pain for both of you diminishes. Love , true love, will heal this situation.

What does this look like for a betrayed man?

After reading this, I realized that I used anger, control and denial as my mechanisms to get past this betrayal. What does grieving look like for a betrayed husband? I have never shed a tear over this - I forgave and then just acted like nothing ever happened except for the bouts of anger I suffered. How can I get to a place of grieving after 5 years from discovery?

Which is worse?

It's been three years from my D-Day. My situation is somewhat different, however the pain and grief I suffered through are the same. My husband was frequenting prostitutes. There's very little written about this. I've read everything I could find on the subject so I feel I have a better understanding but it's a different level of humiliation when your spouse would rather have sex with some stranger than his willing wife. I'm beginning to think the emotional pain inflicted by an affair is worse, but I'm not sure. I read somewhere, which would you rather step in, a pile of poo or vomit? So I don't know which is worse an affair or prostitutes? My husband didn't want an emotional connection, he just wanted sex as a release from his inability to cope with extreme stress. We are together today but it took lots of therapy and a 18 month hiatus from one another. My recovery took a long time and at times I still feel twinges of self doubt, grief and betrayal.
I feel for everyone going through this process, it sucks. I went through all the stages, anger, grief, bargaining, acceptance and finally forgiveness. Not just forgiveness for him but me. I beat myself up. Why? Why? Why would this man do such a destructive and hurtful thing? What was wrong with me? The hardest part I wondered was if there was something wrong with me for even considering reconciliation. I have to say it took time, therapy and honest effort from him to change. .
We have a much stronger relationship now than ever before. There's a level of honesty we never had..... but it's still difficult.

I understand

I’m in the same boat . My husband paid for sex as well . There isn’t much on this . I trusted him . He also had on online affair with a girl yes girl . Who he would just send money to . I want the full story and all I get is I don’t remember. Let it go . Let’s move on . I love you . I want our life back . He gets so angry. Today is D day

I had an adulterous tantrum...

My husband and I have been married over 3.5 years. Six weeks ago, I committed infidelity. I felt a nudging in my spirit since these temptations entered our lives a year ago, but little did I know that my husband had given up on us a year and a half ago. As I grew more depressed and withdrawn, wanting to be away from these temptations who teased me with what I wanted so desperately from my husband, my love tank on E, starved of love, I felt myself slipping. At every turn, I told him, and all he could say was "I feel bad for you." A few weeks ago, I was truly terrified--I'd just crossed a major line and very nearly crossed the major one (ironically we never did, but close enough to me) and poured my heart out to him, to which all he could say was, "I feel sorry for you" and "I'm almost jealous of the kind of attention you get and I don't get." Not almost. My heart dropped to the floor. That's when he entirely lost me. The next day, he kept showing me proof online about how we don't match up personality-wise and it just dagger'd me. After nearly two months of no sexual intimacy (which was normal), emotional abuse, manipulation, gaslighting, physical abuse (for the first time months ago he left bruises on my arm and dug his nails into my skin, breaking the skin, claiming it was my fault because he's "afraid" of me, even though we were in front of other people), invalidation, and more--I just wanted to be wanted so bad, to be desired, wanted. I felt like an old woman, as I felt ugly and disgusting in what I did. I don't think this is just me. He's been cheated on in every relationship he's ever had, which is at least three before me. What on earth is going on?!

At any rate, at the same time, I've gone through all the stages of grieving and am now in a kind of limbo, not knowing what is coming next. He's left home, moved back into his parents (as he always does) and his sister-in-law is now furious, determined that our parents-in-law are standing in between our marriage while he refuses to go to Christian counseling (although he is seeing a counselor at least and seeking some Christian counsel) and trying to control when we see each other face-to-face, and leaves me to live in and take care of this big house by myself. Yet, I'm so grateful to God for his grace and mercy, who knows who I really am, that I am not the sin. This is an incredible thing and I realize now how important it is to seek God' every day through prayer. If we had done that, either one of us, this would never have happened. We both sinned greatly against God.

I just wish there was something that could be done here. I have stepped back and am letting God take over, but I would never wish this kind of pain on anyone. I wonder, if it takes my husband, at minimum, 4 hours to recover from any conflict (green level) up to days--how long is he going to take to grieve and heal? Especially while he rests comfortably in his parents' basement? >_<

Grieving a loss of 20 years

I'm late to the party but I couldn't keep quiet. I've been finding these articles extremely helpful, cathartic, and insightful.

My husband of 20 years has been involved with a woman he befriended at the beach he likes to frequent (I'm not a beach person). They connected, and while I have no issues with him having a female friend, I do have issues with him having secret female friends. I suspected something was up when he stayed out til after midnight after a day at the beach while ignoring my frantic calls and texts (it was a worknight and it was extremely uncharacteristic of him to stay out so late without at least letting me know when he'd be home). I was about to call the third hospital on my list when he came home, and admittedly I didn't handle it well because I was sick with worry. He said he was hanging out with a new friend he had made and drove "them" home. I probed a little, and he finally said, "Well, if you MUST know, yes, it's a female, her name is [X]. We just got to talking and I lost track of time."

This incident got me rattled but I eventually got over it. I never made a fuss about him going to the beach after I got over it because, tada, I wanted to trust him. I asked to be introduced to this girl but he never obliged, saying I was just being jealous and that I didn't want him to have any friends.

Fast forward three years. One night - ironically the night after we came home from a vacation - he bolted out the door, saying his friend had him worried because she had a migraine and may need to go to the hospital. He confirmed it was this same girl. He left at 10pm and didn't come home until well after 2am. I went for a long drive after that to clear my head, and was furious when I got home (but at least confirmed that she was indeed all right). She didn't need to go to the hospital but he ended up staying for hours while I was worried sick (again).

That night after he went to sleep I took a look at his phone. Unbeknownst to him I've had his pw for years but out of respect for him I never went into his phone, but noticed he was being awfully protective of it, and also seemed to defend this girl a little TOO much. He also said she's mentally unwell and he was concerned for her well-being. What devastated me is that he felt her well-being was put ahead of our marriage. He insisted he was helping a friend, but it turns out she's also a sex worker with mental health issues and she saw him as a therapist and a customer while he viewed the relationship as just being a good friend and a way to get some physical release (intimacy had been an issue for several years for medical reasons). I truly believe the sexual component was secondary; she viewed him as a security blanket and I believe he yearned for the feeling of being "needed". In the end he came to realize that everything was a delusion - she tried to extort him with their text logs being leaked to me for financial gain, even after he loaned her over $3k "to help her out with rent" on the short term (we're not expecting this money back and have effectively written it off as a loss and a hard lesson learned). We won't even get into the money he paid her for services. I told him I forgave him for the $3k because I saw the texts of her asking for a loan foe rent and he acquiesced with the caveat that he needed to be paid back ASAP. At the time he truly felt like he was helping a good friend in hard times, and I admitted to him that I'd do the same for a friend.

The texts were all that I needed to confirm my fears. I take a little comfort in knowing he had to pay to be touched, but only a little. She took him for an emotional ride as she recognized him as someone yearning for friendship (he's very introverted) and she needed to hustle to survive. The fact that she saw him as a stand-in therapist first and a customer second convinces me that she took advantage of his good nature and expected him to cave at the threat of being exposed. At least I found out about everything before that threat was made.

I did something stupid and drastic which landed me in the hospital involuntarily for six days. I called him from the hospital psychiatric unit and while he showed concern, I told him that I knew everything, that I looked in his phone. He didn't deny anything, didn't even get angry for looking at his phone.

Over the next several days while I was hospitalized we chatted earnestly and honestly, him giving me answers when I asked the tough questions. And while I'd like to think he's being 100% honest about everything and he's trying his damndest to make amends in some ways (spending more quality time together, having date nights, etc.), I'm finding him being rather cold and distant in other ways because he feels I'm being too emotional to handle things "properly" right now. He's said he's sorry but has never said specifically *why*, as if a simple apology will magically make all the hurt and distress disappear. He doesn't understand why it just doesn't work that way. He's said he's sorry "for everything" and when asked if he knew what he was sorry about, he started rattling off reasons in an annoyed tone, his voice basically sounding like he was rolling his eyes and counting his fingers as he listed everything. It didn't sound genuine at all, which crushed me to no end. I couldn't believe I didn't clue in to his lack of empathy for so long.

I honestly believe he's devoid of empathy (he had a complicated childhood with no real role models as far as a good marriage is concerned), and while I believe he's remorseful to a degree, I don't think he truly understands the amount of pain this has caused. It's hard to be empathetic when you simply don't know how, and I realize he's going through his own traumatizing thoughts of this whole mess.

I honestly believe that when he said he wants this to work out that he means it as he's exploring therapy options right now, but won't be able to commit until early September due to work obligations (his job is very stressful at the moment). He has given a timeline as to when I can expect him to attend therapy, so I can at least diarize a general due date when he will attend.

I'm trying to understand what he's going through, and while I'm confident I understand somewhat WHY it happened, that in no way equates to excusing it.

We are very early in our healing journey (just under a month after I found out and all hell broke loose) and I am hoping that I will be able to find the strength to grieve and eventually forgive in time. I still love him and I know know he's not inherently a bad person. I truly believe he is a very good person who made a very, VERY bad mistake. I hope he can find some peace in therapy and the strength to forgive himself in time as well.

Apologies for the length and I thank you if you've made it this far. The wounds are still open and very raw, and I guess I just needed to get this out in words as a form of self therapy before I commence my own therapy sessions in just a few days.

Wish us luck. ❤


Thank you Wayne for offering I broader timeline for recovery. For my situation I need way more than the 18-24 month window expressed in much of AR’s information.


I agree with you bethhess, and many betrayed partners will take beyond 18 to 24 months for recovery. Grief work and recovery is a very individual process without timeliness, and no limitations or expectations should placed on the betrayed, as the process cannot be rushed. Recovery is not always linear either, and we need to give ourselves grace as we move through the stages of grief and processing the impact of how our relationships and lives have been affected by the agregious decisions of another we had no control over.

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